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"I don’t believe I ever suggested or even mentioned that single party control of all 3 branches of the government was necessarily a good thing, only what separation of powers means. It depends on the morality of those in control. We are just ending 8 years of gross immorality and illegality under a gang of hoodlums and goons not unlike those you mention.
What surprises me is that anyone would support a man who marched in lockstep with these criminals and supported virtually every single one of those policies you Repubs now are reaping the rewards of and complaining like hell, as indeed you should. Top that off with senility and the great likelihood of death in office, and McShame would leave us the ultimate legacy of an Alaskan airhead to negotiate with Vladimir Putin.
What in the hell are you guys thinking?"
"Wow! The insults that you filled your response to me are amazing. Really? Proud of yourself?
First, I am NOT a Republican. I think I have made that clear in my previous writings and on my show regularly. I have mentioned that I support Senator McCain because I agree with a lot of what he says, does and what makes him different from George W. Bush. So, that said, I am not one of "you guys" as you closed with.
"Gross immorality and illegality under a gang of hoodlums and goons"? Like the last 8 have been any different than the previous 8? Really? Check your ideology and look at the gang that Clinton had in there with him.
Senility....that's good. I'd take the RISK of senility, which is addressed by the 25th Amendment...as an Attorney, you SHOULD know that, over the outright incompetence that we would get under and Obama administration. Sorry, but looking at who his political operatives are and the company that he keeps, I'd rather have him stay in the senate.
But the bigger point is this, I fear a consolidation of powers. Period. Wasn't good when Julius Caesar did it. Wasn't/Isn't good under most monarchies, isn't under a dictatorship, won't be good in the United States of America. NO MATTER WHICH PARTY.
I will suggest to you what I suggest to everyone. Check your ideology on occasion. Back in February, I talked and wrote about how I thought it was going to be great to see these two men running as their parties nominees. BOTH have disappointed me. Obama has run 1300+ to McCain's 80+ negative ads. Guess that helps by having more money....that he got by breaking a promise that he made. He has a history of that.
Barack Obama has accomplished nothing. Inspires people, and that I don't understand. But I never understood how lots of others got inspired by other leaders. I do know that it was not his record.
John McCain's book "Faith of my Fathers" gave me a better understanding and respect for him back in 1999. He is not the same man that he was then, we all change. But he has a record of reaching across the aisle. He has a record of taking it to his own party. Democrats wanted him as VP four years ago, what does that say?
I appreciate your insight. But you completely missed my point. Party affiliation may be the cause. I support a candidate on issues, NEVER on party.
I agree with George Washington. Too bad you and too many others do not see the wisdom of that great man."
"I have no idea who you are but if I insulted you by inferring from your comments that you were a Republican, I apologize. I re-read my email and couldn’t find any other place wherein I insulted you but if your feelings were hurt nevertheless, I regret that, too.
I’m a university professor and teach only graduate students, most of whom are mature adults and who, by virtue of their experience as graduate students, are accustomed to blunt talk, and are not easily offended or intimidated. They also are very knowledgeable and outspoken, and my “ideology” as you described it, is tested almost daily.
I would have guessed that you majored in history because you dwell on the past a lot and appear almost obsessed with a fear of totalitarianism. For that reason I also would have thought you would have had grave concerns about the tenor of the past seven and a half years, when the current administration took us further down that path than any other in our history. I teach, write about and am active in the defense of civil liberties embodied in the Constitution and especially the Bill of Rights, and thus am closely attuned to the abuses of our Constitution during the past seven years.
Senator McCain has been allied with those who have broken and thumbed their noses at the supreme law of the land, the Constitution. His failure to stand up to those abuses and unlawful actions by his own party and the President is what concerns me most about him. He is no maverick but has made a career of posing as one plus a “war hero.” I don’t fault him for spilling his guts to the Viet Cong to win more favorable treatment from his captors. Hell, I would have told the enemy anything they wanted to hear before they even had a chance to torture me. But I do fault him for coming home and building a career on phony war hero claims. He shifted the burdens of torture onto his own comrades in captivity. It is too much also to profit from those actions.
He seeks now to distance himself from Mr. Bush and his policies, because Mr. Bush has fallen so dramatically from grace, and many Americans, side tracked by the induced fears of terrorism, have finally figured out what hit them economically under the radical economic policies and politics of the New Amerikan Century. But McCain was and is a faithful follower of that same line of extremism. Only last night, he again urged that the enormous tax cuts awarded to America’s richest by Mr. Bush, be made permanent, and promised even more tax breaks for the wealthiest, if elected. Being a member of that same elite economic class, by virtue of his marriage to the spousally abused but very rich Cindy, he understands their needs and empathizes with their feelings of neglect and their lack of quality housing in more than 4 countries.
I am familiar with the 25th Amendment, which was passed in my lifetime following the assassination of John Kennedy. I also am familiar with the fact that the relevant clause never has been invoked and wouldn’t help anyway, because we still would be burdened with the empty-headed Ms. Palin as next in the line of succession. Ronald Reagan probably already suffered from Altzheimers when he took office in 1981. Well before the end of his 2d term he was virtually drooling and almost incapable of forming complete sentences, let alone having coherent thoughts. But who would have had the temerity to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove the Great Ex-Communicator from office?
Penultimately, I do support political parties, because parties, unlike individuals stand for principles no matter who the main individual is. An individual is more susceptible to personal ambition, a sense of entitlement and a cult of hero worship than is a political party made up of millions. I vote for principles, not personalities, which often are faked.
Lastly, your main hero, General Washington, about whom many glowing tales have been fashioned, such as the cherry tree and his “noble” refusal of pay as General of the American Army, was himself as corrupt, if not more so than any of his contemporaries. I commend to you a very interesting book by Marvin Kitman, George Washington’s Expense Account, Grove Press, 2001. George practically invented the concept of the well-padded expense account.
Throughout my career I have searched for an historical example of a incorruptible political leader. The only person I have ever found who, to my knowledge and that of his contemporaries and historians, achieved that status was Emiliano Zapata. He could not be bought off, as was true of most of his contemporaries in the Mexican Revolution, and refused the Presidency when offered it as a means of placating him.
Zapata walked, alone and unarmed, into what he knew was an ambush planned by the ambitious Mexican General, Victoriano Huerta. Huerta had been ordered to seek out and kill Zapata, using any means he deemed necessary, because he wouldn’t cooperate with the newest gang of thieves who had seized power, and continued to foment revolt against them. Zapata understood that only his own death would end the merciless slaughter of hundreds of Mexican peasants and the burning of their villages by Huerta and his caudillos because they refused to give up Zapata’s whereabouts.
That is a real war hero, not McFake."
I am a thick skinned guy. I was not offended at any insults other than your insinuation that I was a member of any political party. I do think that you played fast and loose with facts, and that was especially illustrated by your comments about John McCain "spilling his guys to the Viet Cong to win more favorable treatment from his captors"....untrue and you should really be ashamed of yourself for saying it. But I do not expect shame to come from a Democrat. (Nor a Republican.)
First, McCain was not held by the Viet Cong. He was held by the North Vietnamese military. There is a difference and I would hope that someone in a position to educate would know that. Second, he was beaten to within an inch of his life on a number of occasions and during one of those times he did record and sign a statement that they put in front of him. Something that he has stated has been a source of shame throughout the rest of his life. Col. Bud Day, a Medal of Honor winner, backs up this account and has for over 35 years. Until he passed away, Admiral James Stockdale backed up this account. Norris Overly has as well. You want to smear him, fine. It shows YOU for who you are.
Next you go further by attacking President Reagan as "probably already suffered from Alzheimers" when he became President. Really? You are an expert on this terrible disease? Interesting. Nice to know.
I know myths about Washington portray him to be a perfect man and that he was not. Obviously...and any fair and clear minded person does get this. But he DID warn about political parties. And I do agree with him. Organizations that operate to control government from outside the structure are more able to be corrupted for the benefit of themselves and NOT for benefit of the people. I said that Washington was a great man. Again, I never said that he was perfect. You do not think he was a great man? OK. You can have your opinion and you can back it up, but I will disagree with you.
Barack Obama has been a recipient of many benefactors. George Soros being one bad, bad person that has been a big supporter of him. But I will not twist facts and spread lies about Obama.
Nor will I of the great hero of the Democratic Party, William Jefferson Clinton. Everything bad that Bush has done, I cannot argue with. I will state that the previous eight years were no picnic then. Am I better off today than I was eight years ago? Damned right. Am I better off than I was sixteen years ago? Yeah, probably. But I was worse off in 1994-1999. I do not put the blame on Bill Clinton. I do not put the blame on Congress. I put the blame on ME. Apparently, I am unique in doing that. THAT is sad.
As for Zapata, some good points about him. I have not researched him fully. I do not expect that I would find him without fault, we ALL have faults. Period.
My best college professor was Dr. Roy Ambrester. Dr. Ambrester is an unabashed liberal who challenged his students to debate. Blunt talk would be an understatement. He pushed me to lock up in debates with him. I was a 31 year old undergrad when I met him. Our discussions led the rest of the class, full of 20 and 21 year olds, to feel free to jump in. He made all of us think and RETHINK our views. He admitted that he felt the way that he did based on his life experience and that we probably did, the younger ones especially, on how they were raised. He challenged us. He actually made some liberal students lean more conservative and some more conservatives lean more liberal. That is a good thing.
And Dr. Ambrester never ONCE told us lies and half truths, nor distortions to make a point. Re-read YOUR last e-mail. You have done that. If you do that to your students, I fear for our future.
I may be just a guy with a microphone, a blog page and a simple bachelors degree. You may want to dismiss me because I do not meet the background to get your respect. That's fine. Because I often use my microphone, blog page and my experience in earning that bachelors degree to point out how often people are educated beyond their intellect. I do not know if that is you, but you have probably encountered that type in your professional and personal life.
I appreciate your passion, but I really do not like your tactics. I would hope that you would find the time to reassess what you have done in these exchanges. I vote issues and prefer to discuss issues, not throw out insults like calling people empty headed. Do you really think that this helps you? It makes you look petty to me. But if you feel better about yourself, if this is what you need to build yourself up by tearing people down, I am sorry. This is not a good way to go through life, in my opinion. Apparently, you find that it works for you. That is sad and again I feel sorry for you.
You seem like an intelligent guy. Misguided and sad in your approach, but clearly misguided. I cannot understand you and people who act like you. But the more you share these views, the more you will probably hurt your cause.
Feel free to attack me. Do so with facts. Call me fat, ugly, uneducated, whatever you need to do to feel better about yourself. I hope you understand now I am receiving you. Others may feel the same, but will not waste their time sharing this with you.
Maybe this will help you become a better person overall.
"I couldn’t help but be reminded that your descriptions of Dr. Ambrester reminded me a little bit of the anonymous, end of semester course evaluations from my own students. Of course I don’t pretend to measure up to the high standards set by Dr. Ambrester, but then we only have a sample of one evaluation for him, yours. J Sorry for the gaps between sections but the Excel spread sheets possess a format only god could understand.
You are right. I need to avoid arguing with someone with so much anger. You are not thick skinned or you wouldn’t need to make a point of it. Almost anything sets you off.
Nonetheless, I wish you well and I hope you get back to your Democratic roots and values. People like Bushwhacked and McShame have no scruples and I think you are better than that, just very angry. Figure out what you’re really angry about."
"You just don't get me and that is fine. I am SO not an angry person. I laugh much more often than I do any thing else. I just do not like those who spread lies as you did in your e-mails.
I am not thin skinned. I do not take these comments personally, but again, I do not like those who spread lies. IF I took it personally, that would be thin skinned.
I do not like those who call names. I quit doing that, generally, by the time I finished the eighth grade. I would have expected more by someone who is my senior, chronologically speaking.
If you want more recommendations on Dr. Ambrester, I am sure that you could find them. All of my classmates agreed....our final exam, in one of the two classes I had with him, was wrapped up with dinner at the nicest restaurant in town....and the class picked up his part of the bill.
I should at least add this. Thank you for taking the time to sample the blog. I do not know what brought you to it, but since I get readers in places like Wembley, England, UK and Hanoi, Vietnam, I am never surprised to see who checks out my little time waster.
And you make some good points, but I think you hurt yourself and your arguments with the lies and insults. Stick to the ideas. Much more effective in communicating the thoughts. Never give your adversary ammunition."
"Jay, You remind me of a former student who was a Pentecostal zealot. He, like you, told me I just didn’t “get it.” He “got it” and wanted to help me “get it.” Apparently there is a belief that if others don’t agree with you it’s their fault; they just don’t get it. The thing that’s not clear is what “it” is.
I took time out today to attend a real circus, with my granddaughter. I thought about the ringmaster and the hype he gave the public about the daring feats of the performers, as a part of his job. If he told the truth the circus goers would be unhappy and he would be sacked.
This led me to think about you, and your morning job, delivering hype to the lonely and uninformed. I’ve wondered why people go into that line of work. I think it must be a feeling of power, of “getting it” when others don’t.
There are those who lie, and those who accuse others of lying in order not to disturb their own, comforting feelings of being the real defenders of truth, of “getting it.”
You wield some modicum of power in southern Missouri, or wherever it is you hold forth. I don’t know, perhaps as many as 10 thousand listen to your hype. At the same time, it’s well known that people listen to talk radio that agrees with and reinforces their own beliefs. You tell them what they want to hear, or they’ll tune you out and you’ll be sacked. But it’s easy, because they “get it.” "
"The difference between you and me is quite simple. I do not spread lies. You do. I pointed some of these out from your e-mails.
Let me reiterate. You are a liar. Again, I am not. No misdirection plays. No sleight of hand. Not a ringmaster, but I can see where you could find some in my line of work might be doing that.
I can say the same for those in education. Especially those who have to encounter liars as their educators.
So far I have learned that you are an educated man, but yet you do not know basic history nor geography. And that you try the misdirection, sleight of hand and other deception while accusing me of the same.
I find you amusing. Troubled, but amusing. I get a chuckle out of your e-mails."
"You remind me of a schoolyard kid, shouting at another, “Liar, liar, pants on fire.” To paraphrase a familiar line, “Schoolyard taunts are the last refuge of a scoundrel.” You’re probably a super patriot, too, so it works for both.
But you are mistaken, Jay, the difference(s) between us are so enormous as to fill a small volume and defy your comprehension.
Here’s one more of them. I don’t get a chuckle from your emails. You are a dangerous individual and a threat to the good common sense of your audience, if they pay any attention to you, and a threat to the commonweal if they do. This is not about infantile one up-man-ship. It’s about the continuing welfare of millions of American families and the safety of billions of others throughout the world.
Senator McCain is a dangerous, emotionally crippled, intellectually stunted, hot-headed bully with a militaristic bent, running for the most powerful political office in the world, who sings children’s ditties with the refrain “Bomb Iran,” running for office with a woman repudiated by NOW and every other serious women’s group in America, but the darling of the male redneck crowd who attend her rallies, in their own words, to see her “knockers,” neither of whom is endorsed by the NY Times, the LA Times, the Washington Post or 13 other major daily newspapers (all of which are owned or controlled by conservative, Republican individuals or corporations that previously endorsed King George; and have been attacked by Nazi organizations because of their current endorsements). In fact, at last count, M&P have been endorsed by “0” news organizations. But you, standing alone, waving the flag, are encouraging your own backwoods, closet racist listeners to vote for the hate mongering and incompetent duo of McCain-Palin.
I don’t want to receive further correspondence from you. But I recognize that you probably need to have the last word, so with you next email you’ve got it. I’m bowing out."